tv Book Discussion on ISIS Exposed CSPAN April 7, 2015 2:13am-3:40am EDT
to idolatry. shiite, they would have to be annihilated where they would have to leave. so it's an existential threat to a lot of people that don't live in the ideology. so how to counter it? if i knew the answer i would get a lot of money for that. how to conquer isis ideology. like i told you it's almost too late when someone starts buying into the isis ideology discourse. before that it's difficult because a lot of parents tell me that they were surprised that their sons joined isis. one of them for example and i should cite in the book the child would use an application. i don't know of anyone involved in pro-democracy activism the application is very useful for
countries in the middle east. so you don't -- the government cannot monitor the application. with a application does basically as it turns a smartphone or a phone into a walkie-talkie and you can start to listen to sermons from isis and the territories and you can listen to them from your home. you don't have to have access to the internet or social media or that sort of thing. a lot of parents for example one parent said he found his son listening to these sermons. he said don't listen to these people. they are deviant and the child would say i'm curious about it. i don't like them so a few months later he disappeared and joined isis and called his
parents from the borders of iraq and he said i'm with the brothers. it's difficult to do it after that. on a personal note while i was writing the book and researching it i feared from my own son. how can you prevent, how can you make sure that this person won't join groups like back? it's really hard to kind of predict who can join isis. >> one last question. isis is a threat for central asia? >> is a threat for anywhere i am not an expert on central asia but i know a lot of central asian -- asians are in syria and iraq come from different countries. in terms of symbolism for isis they have this discourse which
>> up next erick stakelbeck post a terrorism analyst for the christian broadcasting network talks about the appeal will isis in the middle east in the front the organization poses to people living in the united states. a positive. >> thank you for coming out tonight. first i want to thank my good friend sarah stern. i consider sarah a modern-day deborah for our times, for such a time as this. i've said it before and i have to tell you at the endowment i'm here in the belly of the beast in washington d.c.. i get to see what am it does and what sarah doesn't close the tireless work for israel or america on capitol hill where it really counts. they are making a difference for everyone at home as well check out amit on line.org. a great important organization. i have to give everyone here credit for coming out tonight. they're easier more smoothing and -- soothing and relaxing
things to do then he's coming to hear about isis. god bless my wife and she is here some place in the room. i see her in the back of thing. we talk about this issue. we talk about isis and this is my third book. every night in my head hit the pillow writing this book over a five-month span it was very condensed. i would be thinking about isis and i would have to share with someone. how about my significant other? beheadings burnings lighter fare, keeping the marriage together but i would say to her laurie would you rather know or not know at the end of the day and she said i would rather know but you are sleeping on the couch tonight. [laughter] so without further ado folks thank you so much for coming first of all. secondly i want you to know i'm going to focus on tonight. we are in america in the united states. they really want to focus here on what isis come its supporters
come its sympathizers are doing here on american soil. i think that's very important. a lot of times americans today are kind of zoned out. the kardashians are in the tube. the game is on someone just texted me. i'm dealing with too. maybe not the kardashians but the rest of it i'm guilty of ide. that look the way you get people's attention and our great country is to make a real and immediate and to let them know it's in their backyard. a lot of times americans say look why should i care about what happens in the middle east thousands of miles away? it doesn't affect me. i will give you an example of how it does affect all of us right here in the united states. just last month recently the fbi director james comey made a very stunning statement. he said that in all 50 u.s. states today we have a network
of isis supporters and sympathizers. the fbi director said that in all 50 states in the union we have investigations ongoing right now into isis related at to these. so folks with the fbi director was saying is that the barbarians are not just at the gates, they are inside the gates. we are going to get into that tonight. but let's start with a quick overview of isis in this islamic state that has wreaked so much havoc throughout the middle east and throughout the world over the past year. right now i says the islamic state of iraq and syria control some 35000 square miles of territory in the very heart of the middle east. that's an area the size of great britain, astounding. jv team mind you. we will talk about that briefly. 35,000 square miles in the middle of the middle east.
they declared a caliphate an islamic state. this is the great dream of every islamic jihad is group from the muslim brother to al qaeda to isis and so on and so on. they go about it in different ways. the tactics differ as we will discuss but at the end of the day remember the endgame is the same the caliphate and islamic sharia law for one and all whether you like it or not. so they declared a caliphate. the caliphate has returned and it made isis more than just a terrorist group. it's made them a global phenomenon. ladies and gentlemen this is not al qaeda or hamas and that is bad and that's lethal enough. i sais again has declared a state and a pivotal part of the world. not only that they are 30 to 40,000 well-trained well-trained fanatical foot soldiers. basically they have a standing army.
and they are global. the cia director john brennan said recently that isis recruits are coming from 90 countries around the world including the united states. 90 countries. and american airstrikes have not stemmed the flow the flow of jihadists from every corner of the globe continues. they are circuiting through our friend and ally turkey many times. i say that with air quotes when i talk about turkey being a friend and ally these days but it's happening. this is a global phenomenon. this is a movement. jihadists around the world have galvanized and the caliphate has been declared. here in the west and the united states some 180 u.s. citizens have left their comfortable existence and the most prosperous country in the history of the world and they have gone to the caliphate.
some 35 hundred western europeans at least. that number is probably much higher but according to most estimates at least 3500 western europeans, brits, french, germans, swedes, danes have less comfortable western europe and traveled to the caliphate in iraq and syria. ladies and gentlemen, here's the key point about that for everyone watching here in america. if they don't get killed these westerners are waging jihad overseas one day they will return home. these are u.s. citizens coming u.s. passport holders and when they return home fresh off sawing off someone's head in the middle east, they're probably not going to transition peacefully back into civilian life. maybe get a job at a gas station. no, the jihad will come here.
ice is right now is calling on its followers. they are saying hey come to the caliphate establish this utopian islamic society but it's also good bank if you stay put in chicago, new york london berlin. ice calls them city wolves. city wolves and they're telling them to rise up on american soil. you can be a one-man jihad in your own backyard. think of fort hood. think of the boston bombings. think of paris back in january 2015. look folks, in paris perfect example of what i'm talking about. two well-armed jihadists, brothers. they had trained in yemen with al qaeda and returned home to france and they wreak havoc. they killed 17 people. among those 17 was not
coincidentally a number of jewish and a jewish deli. they were targeted as they were jewish. make no mistake about it. it was not a coincidence. 17 people killed by two well-armed jihadists capture world attention dominate that the global media cycle for a better part of the week it's fired a massive anti-terror march in paris which president obama skipped. message sent. ladies and gentlemen translate what happened in paris here to american soil. do you really think it can't happen here? did we not see the boston bombings in may 2013? again brothers, two well-armed well-trained terrorists to a degree actually relatively amateurish and in all killed four people, wounded over 200 more and again capture the global media cycle and even more
importantly and more chilling i think for us a major american city the city of boston was shut down for the better part of a week. two men were able to do that. ladies and gentlemen think of the mumbai attacks in november 2008. they ruined a lot of our thanksgivings that we can. 10 well-trained terrorists young. these guys were in their early 20s mostly i'm able one i believe in his late teens. they fanned out across the city of mom buy one of the largest cities in the world millions of people live there in india. they fanned out with assault rifles and bombs in their backpacks and a wreaked absolute havoc. they laid siege to one of the worlds largest cities just 10 men with assault rifles and some bombs. they siege to one of the world's biggest cities for the better part of the week again the media
cycle was completely dominated by this. they killed dozens and dozens of people. could you see that in god forbid middle america? because that's the goal and i'm not an alarmist and i'm not a sensationalist. this is what isis is saying. they are calling again on americans to rise up and be city wolves and their words. folks, the game plan in the strategy for us as i outlined in the book is to turn the united states and western europe into guerrilla war zones where you are seeing a fort hood style attack it often bombing style attack a paris style attack on american and european soil on a regular basis. we had an inkling of that in october of 2014. the sequence of events actually began in in late september 2014
and ending in october. a sequence of events beginning in late september of 2014 when an isis sympathizer and rural oklahoma of all places his co-worker, a grandmother. now on his facebook page and in his on line ravings he spoke in favor of 9/11 pro-al qaeda, pro-isis. he is pictured giving isis the one finger salute. yet the fbi deemed it workplace violence at the end of the day. sounds familiar. i believe something happened in fort hood of years ago. was also a case of work place violence so our government said. this poor woman a grandmother and rural oklahoma was by an islamic radical and it went on.
in the ensuing weeks we saw in ottawa canada one blown jihadist stormed the canadian parliament where the prime minister often is in canada. then we had a hatchet wielding jihadists madmen isis sympathizer tak group of new york city police officers with a hatchet. again, a city wolves. that was in the span of about three weeks in the fall of 2014. isis wants to create a situation on american soil where you are looking over your shoulder. it will give you a great example, a chilling example. in sydney australia down under in september 2014 an isis plot was broken up, a plot devised by isis supporters. what they wanted to do was
randomly kidnap someone off the streets of sydney australia some poor soul with a cup of coffee in his hand walking to the bus doing his morning commute. they planned to kidnap him and saw his head off or her head off for the cameras. a great propaganda victory. thankfully it was broken up but again this is the definition of terror where you never know what's going to hit you, when it's going to hate you or who is going to hate you but rest assured when they do hit you got for bed that will probably be shouting allah akbar and by the way doesn't take a brain surgeon to walk into a shopping mall and yell and start firing. the fbi director his words not mine, his words if he saying we
have a network of isis sympathizers and supporters and all 50 states including alaska and hawaii then we have serious trouble here. it's a big problem and again i'm not being an alarmist because i've done my homework. i've done the research. i've seen it with my own two eyes. i documented in the book. you want to know about ice is recruiting how they are attracting americans well i have a chapter in the book called the islamic state of minnesota. kind of tongue-in-cheek but kind of not. i spent time on the ground over the years in minnesota and look in the frozen tundra of the upper midwest a great place to live a prosperous state very high-quality of living, a beautiful place but the twin cities of minneapolis and st. paul of all places have really become jihad central and united
states. people at home and people in this room are probably shaking their heads and saying minnesota? i can see new york city chicago, los angeles. minnesota? yes, minnesota. minnesota has the largest somali muslim population in all of north america. at least 100,000 somali muslims live in the twin cities of minneapolis and st. paul. that's going to shock a lot of americans to hear that. not every somali issa terrace obviously but we have a serious problem in that community here in the united states with islamic radicalism. dozens of somali muslims u.s. citizens by the way he lived in the twin cities have traveled overseas or the past few years and join terrorist groups like isis. more than any other state, city and the entire country. minnesota and in particular that somali muslim population.
another reason that alarms me is number one they may return home well-trained fanatical. we had a thread just a short time ago by a somali terror group called al-shabaab linked to al qaeda calling for attacks on the mall of america in minneapolis. the largest shopping mall in the country. and if you have that large radicalized population living within the shadow of the shopping mall you may have a problem. dozens, that's astounding, dozens of u.s. citizens from the same metropolitan area on overseas to join terror groups the worst of the worst, isis. now folks that alarms me also because look it seems to be following the european model. i documented the book the horrific problems western europe is having in britain france
germany and sweden have all places where a large number of muslim immigrants are coming to these countries. and they are not assimilating and they're not integrating. and they are forming almost self segregating types of societies. i know because i have walked in these neighborhoods and i documented it in the book. it's happening. the europeans have not encouraged assimilation. they have encouraged multiculturalism and for new arrivals to keep their culture. it sounds great in theory but in practice it's disastrous. if we go down that road here in the united states, we have big problems. and i fear that we are seeing that to a degree and again i'm not trying to paint a broad rush. i have met of lot of good somali community leaders have worked with me on this issue to give me great great information walked
me through what's going on but if we have serious problems in that community with assimilation and integration we have got to be on top of it. we can't have droves of people from american communities joining terror groups. we just can't. i spoke to a law enforcement source a very plug-in guy on the ground worked for years and years in the city of st. paul. i asked him how the recruitment process works. i think this is one of the most fascinating aspects of the book and frankly chilling but an eye-opening discussion. ..
you will be a glorious holy warrior and 18, 19 20 -year-old kid fresh at school and appealing message. it could be an appealing message. it's working. it's resonating. on the ground aspect the recruiter according to my sources on the ground they actually take the kid brainwash them, radicalized them make sure they get to the airport to make it to syria, make sure they have money in their pocket, make sure they are in contact with the fixer on the
ground usually in turkey and then transit through turkey in the syria which is part of the caliphate. holy warriors dedicated to destroying the country that gave them everything whether were born and raised in many cases. how is this happening other than on the ground? two words, folks, social media. isis, as i said in the beginning of our talk is a different beast, a global phenomenon the ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen, the way they are using social media is unprecedented. facebook twitter, youtube, histogram. isis and its supporters around the world send out 90 tweets per minute. that is astounding. and their social media operations are run by westerners, in particular one american who was raised in the boston, massachusetts
area of all places. a dean's list student at northeastern university now reportedly runs the propaganda arm. abandon -- the abandon -- the propaganda arm not only is targeted through social media but films the power of film, video spent hundreds of thousands of dollars making these slippery produced propaganda videos, and they have the production values of a hollywood action flick in some cases. it is it is astounding if you look at the propaganda. long long gone are the days of osama bin laden in a cave standing against a green screen droning on in arabic for an hour. that is done. isis is on the cutting edge.
westerners control the propaganda arm and know how to directly speak to a western english-speaking audience that can reach out and touch through the web. they are having a great effect. we in this room and most if not every one of them see what they are doing and are repelled by it. this is evil. yes. exists. there are a segment of people in the west who see what there doing beheading raping, pillaging and they are attracted to it. in our culture over the past few decades we have had violent video games were heads are being kicked, chopping heads in a bedroom, movies realistic torture
scenes and our kids are filling a has with this and i believe there is some desensitization going on. chopping had. i just did that last night. when the culture is poisonous, that kind of thing, if it's a product made for these times in many ways, medieval ideology and tactics fêted with toy 1st century technology. that's a lethal mix. that's a lethal mix. it's highly effective. the on the ground recruitment. the online recruitment. another chilling story about how the online recruitment works. one of one of the nastier sides of isis is the way
that they treat women. total subhuman oppression. yet in a strange way and in the flipside piercing more and more western women travel to syria and iraq to join isis young girls as young as 14 and 15 years old from places like austria britain, france, germany going to join his caliphate. this caliphate. i was stunned in the fall 2014. i reference the i reference to follow 2014 a lot because that is when i wrote the book. in the follow 2014 i spoke at a large pro- israel church in the suburbs of denver, colorado and they told me a chilling tale. your writing a book. we have have a story for you.
a few a few months ago woman was coming to our sunday services every sunday dressed from head to toe and islamic garb. she would come every sunday for this church with a a large vibrant conversation -- congregation and take notes for a walk around the church premises, spend a lot of time in the nursery according to the security team and what they told me, the nursery where there is children dressed head to toe and islamic garb taking notes. after a few after a few weeks of this the security team became a bit concerned. some of the churchgoers were a bit concerned. the security team approach to nicely and said, miss them are you interested in becoming a christian. would you like a bible? she said, no i'm said no,
i'm a muslim and have no interest in becoming a christian. a natural follow-up is why are you here and taking notes in front of the nursery? eventually they asked to leave. a few months later something stunning happened, this young girl, 19 years old years old, caucasian shannon connolly, an irish name i believe converted to islam, become radicalized online and was communicating with ice fighters online. she agreed to marry one and was traveling to join the. she was arrested at denver international airport. she was on her way to join isis. she is now serving four years in federal prison. we have seen many cases like that where they are finding
vulnerable girls online's young girls and let me tell you about how they treat women. this is, again a throwback to many centuries ago because when they come into a town, village, city and the vanquished people are there it is raping and pillaging. a document in my book the horrific stories from first-hand accounts firsthand sources i spoke to on the ground in iraq and syria, particularly its end is seen how they treat the populations where women and children are beheaded. it is happening. it is not alarmism or hyperbole. it is happening right now. isis has brothels in syria
where they take christian women, religious minorities and turn them into sex slaves. worse still is that at least one of the brothels is run by british women. god save the queen's. british women queen's. british women running a brothel. when fighters come off the battlefield's they have sex slaves literally. i don't use that term lightly, sex slaves waiting for them. this is happening. right now. one more thing i have to mention about the us threat before move on. the southern border. have been told it is slightly porous. one of the most chilling conversations i had was i had was with the former cia clandestine services officer
country? i have laid out a pretty dire set of circumstances. this is no time to mince words. this is happening. if not us who if not now, when? it is not going well, folks. the start with president obama. we could talk about this topic for a long time. let me begin. let's rewind. 2007/8. whether you agree with the iraqi war or disagree many opinions. one thing is certain us troops were at work. work. al qaeda and iraq was vanquished. fast-forward to december
2011. i have a timeline in my book. president obama against the advice of his top generals withdrew every last us troop essentially declared victory. folks, almost simultaneously a wave of wave of suicide bombings began, assassinations of iraqi leaders began, began terror attacks began. al qaeda rose again like vampires and the attacks began. then they spread tentacles into syria and take advantage of the civil war. eventually became the beast we have today isis the islamic state in iraq and syria. president obama gets intelligence reports every morning. he was warned by whether military officials
diplomats he was warned us that iraq was unraveling. yet our president in january 2014 2014 goes on national television and compares isis to a jv team the jv team of terrorism, pretty much waves them off short of the shoulders, no big deal minor nuisance. well right now the cover 30,000 square miles of territory in the heart of the middle east and rules over some 8 million unfortunate souls. they are the richest terrorist movement in history they have a standing army practically state. jv. we thought it might get better after multiple, the second-largest city was
seized. might get the memo and turn this thing around. has not gone that way. limited airstrikes. worst of all is president obama's refusal to acknowledge the enemy. that gets to the heart of the matter and i'm not trying to be a hyper partisan it is what it is. what it is is a refusal to even utter the words radical islam or jihad. you cannot defeat the enemy if you cannot identify the enemy. you cannot do it. obviously not every muslim is a terrorist. we know that. but obviously there but obviously there is a slice of islam are now a growing slice, and a significant slice's that are.
that is not alarmism racism or stereotyping but the fact if you are a truly moderate muslim you admit that. a guy i respect a lot. some ten to 15 percent of the world's muslims are radicalized jihadists. that jihadists. that is at least 160, 170 million people around the world. it is a lot of people, not a tiny minority command we have to acknowledge that it exists. a global movement exists that has declared war on the united states. it is not a criminal action or a nuisance that can be shrugged off and handled in federal court. it is a war.
pres. obama gave a speech saying that they have legitimate grievances. there is a lack of economic opportunity and that lack of opportunity is driving terrorism and fueling the rise of isis. i suppose the next big government program will be jobs for jihadists natural conclusion. at conclusion. at the end of the day, key take away car terrorism is a tactic. it is fueled by ideology ideology fuels the global jihad. goes without saying that bin
laden came from a a multimillionaire family. came from a prominent egyptian family command he is a dr.. well educated. the brotherhood,. the brotherhood, they look like me, suits ties, western educated these are not poor street urchins. in america. we have had in the west in general for medical students for business majors kids in the early 20s and late teens, not kids, young men and women from affluent suburban communities join isis that because of poverty or lack of opportunity but because of ideology. and their success breeds attraction.
so if you want to know how we are doing we cannot even call them who they are. this is the equivalent of not being able to call hitler and his words nazis for not being able to call the soviets communists. it is insane. they hear the president and his administration parsing words in holding back and laugh. the islamic state is not islamic? we literally have administration officials playing armchair in mom and telling the muslim world what is and is not islamic. it boggles it boggles the mind, but it is happening. in terms of fighting we
apparently believe, and they hate to pile on is that bad. we believe that iran could be used as an ally and counterweight to isis. folks, let's get one thing clear, iran has been the head of the global terrorist snake for 36 years. whether it is hamas, hezbollah, palestinian islamic jihad and in some cases al qaeda. they have fueled and driven this global jihad. yes, they are fighting each other in syria and the rack not because iran is suddenly some friends to the united states and the west, not because they have reformed ideology not because they
have change spots changed spots the because they want the same thing, to dominate the region and lead the global jihad. it is that simple. they are killing each other across the middle east. my comes to killing christians and jews they get along just fine. right right now there battling each other for regional supremacy. iran now controls for arab capitals. they control human beirut, lebanon, damascus, syria baghdad, iraq. these these are becoming iranian satellites increasing influence across the region and are close to a nuclear weapon a nuclear weapon and we are bending over backwards to cut a deal to the.where it is shameful
as an american. i we will i we will be honest, to see our government kowtow to a terrorist regime. you know that you know that we live in a world turned upside down when our administration reportedly is talking about sanctioning israel it wants to lift sanctions on iran. we are in a world today where everything that is good is evil and everything that is evil is good. iran is driving for a nuclear weapon. upper apparently the west is going to accept. accept. why should every american care? my should've room watching at home care about a nuclear armed iran? again, it is over they're. why why should we worry. it is thousands of miles away. well, in addition to working on developing nuclear weapons they are developing intercontinental ballistic
missiles icbms that could reach the east coast of the united states. that is not that is not me saying it. our own pentagon released a report 2012 or 2013 saying that a very very soon iran may have long-range intercontinental ballistic missiles that you reach the east coast of the united states. why would they do that? why would they want missiles that can reach the united states? they are our friend, ally. the deal is coming. why would they want missiles that could reach the united states? why would they refuse as part of these grand nuclear negotiations why would they refuse to give up that missile program?
that is off the table. they won't even talk about that long-range missile program. why? why we pressing mnemonic? there is only one reason that you develop icbms to mount them with a nuclear warhead. only one reason. iran considers the united states the great satan, the iranian regime. they call israel the little satan. israel is a bump on the road to the ultimate prize, the united states. if anyone watching thinks that god for bid if iran got its wishes and wipe israel off the map if that happened is anyone at home or in this room really think that they were just pack up their bags and say mission accomplished? no. where would they go next? israel is the 1st line of
defense for western civilization. if israel goes down eventually we all go down. don't kid yourself. the iranian supreme leader a partner for piece recently called for death to america as nuclear negotiations are ongoing the leader is going for death to america. what are we doing? the president said that these nuclear negotiations with the west are a form of diplomatic jihad. jihad. he did not mean spiritual either, i can assure you. what are we doing? 's so let iran and isis fight it out, but please don't call them an ally. don't do it.
don't try to recast history current and former and tell me that this regime has changed his spot. ladies and gentlemen, when it comes to iran and isis which is the subject of our talk when it comes to this global jihad, this is a winston churchill moment. think back to the late 1930s, early 1940s? winston churchill saw the gathering storm of nazi germany marching across europe. he he called it for what it was a new what to do about it. he was bold and courageous. by the way he also saw the iron curtain descending over eastern europe and call it for what it was. today the only world leader icy who sees the gathering
storm of radical islam the global jihad the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu. [applause] he knows the enemy. the 1st rule of war is no your enemy. he knows the enemy. i i believe he knows what to do about the enemy. yet just like churchill in the 30s and 40s that in yahoo is being ridiculed ridiculed, shunned, and marginalized by western leaders who do not have the backbone to confront this existential threat and tell it like it is and do what needs to be done. what needs to be done? i have spent this evening playing out a pretty dire set of circumstances for you as i said the barbarians are not just at the gates, they are inside the gates.
it is not fear mongering. i mongering. i laid it out for you. i have done my homework. i am not just in an air-conditioned think tank. i i am getting on the ground, talking to people. number one speaking in military strategists. pretty extensively about this threat. all of them shared a common theme. we cannot defeat isis. there is one of them right they're. tell them i said hello. i would knowledge them in the book. we cannot defeat them through airstrikes alone. it cannot be done. you need you need some sort of ground presence. president obama says again and again the american people have no stomach for war. that may be true but let me tell you something about the american people.
if you lay out the case about an existential threat gathering at their doorstep that could kill their kids and grandkids, all of a sudden they're stomach perks up. the american people are not changed and if a threat the threat is gathering we want to confronted head-on. i'll tell you what we need to do -- deal with isis. and this is not simplistic or trite. only did to the german war machine and the japanese war machine during world war ii crush crush them. isis has declared a state in the heart of the middle east , a caliphate with 30 to 40,000-foot soldiers. we know where they are, their de facto capitol. crush them. they are evil. if they have their way they would take all of our heads off and our kids and grandkids with them. that's
not hyperbole. when someone tells you they want to kill you you should believe them and take them at there word. i believe them when they say they want to kill me. chaos and havoc and bloodshed in my country. ladies and gentlemen not only on a recruiting from around the world they are establishing satellites throughout the middle east and north africa. we see a presence in algeria, libya and egypt's sinai peninsula. nigeria. the form of poco from which has pledged allegiance to isis. this is growing ladies and gentlemen. geographically is growing. the movement is gaining momentum. crush it now. crush it.
when you crash it you we will demoralize the global movement strike a blow against the grand caliphate a blow against the ideology. the ideology will survive but, man, it will take a major hit. this does not require a heavy us footprint. back to 2,001 us special forces, cia on the ground in afghanistan working with the northern alliance. we can do the same thing today. we we have the kurds who are fierce fighters, courageous and pro-american begging for our assistance, begging for leadership from the leader of the free world. maybe a few weapons sense isis is using us-made
weapons they seized from the iraqi military. the kurds syrian christians, some moderate iraqi tribes who are being enslaved and killed. they want to fight. they want to get rid of isis and are begging for our assistance. we will assistance. we will not take the lead. it does not take a heavy footprint. afghanistan 2001.. afghanistan 2,001. it was not brain surgery. we got the job done. we can do that today i believe. we i believe. we need to because it is going to metastasize and it is as we speak. it is not alarm is a. it is reality. no one wants to be in the middle east, but when a threat is gathering that seeks to destroy america, it must be dealt with. that used to be a philosophy it affects all of us.
one thing.. one thing. smash the caliphate. smash it militarily. a formidable foe yes but when the us military post their minds to something they take care of business. they need the political well to get this done. president obama laid out a compelling case for why we needed some ground presence and why we needed to snuff out this movement. i believe the american people would rally behind them. i don't think it we will happen now, folks. i don't think much will change for 2016. i hate to be a pessimist. don't worry. i we will end on an optimistic note, but i am a realist. it would also be a beautiful thing to see a true movement of anti- jihad muslims who don't want sharia or jihad.
it would be a great thing. we we should have a movement globally, millions of muslims marching against isis, jihad. guess what? we are not seeing it. even after september 11, paris, ottawa madrid, the rise of kayfor we are not seeing it and i don't think that we we will. what more will it take? we have seen courageous individuals speak out without doubt. courageous individual muslims has spoken out at great risk to their lives and their families lives. in the book i interviewed one in the boston massachusetts area who came into the room and i joke around with him. i said, you look like clint eastwood. the poncho on, the skies over his face and he said i
can said i can show my face on camera. i we will be killed. this is boston, massachusetts. there is a fear factor. bottom line is it is not happening. it muslims themselves will not deal with this problem then we need to. because it is targeting us. at the end of the day for average americans just closing and then we will take q&a, for average americans i have told you that the government needs to do and probably will not, but average americans need to do a few things. stay informed. he will it to yourself, yourself, kids, and grandkids to take ten minutes a day. there there is no excuse after september 11. they really is not. get with like-minded people.
give with organizations like this who care about this issue whether you like or hate the tea party. we we can all agree that they made a difference. as a bunch of like-minded folks who got together on particular issues mostly economic issues. this issue of radical islam is much more pressing an important. a movement that opposes radical islam supports israel. get with that kind of movement like-minded people. the hope. that is simple. we take we take it for granted many times. the hope. if you don't agree
with someone, vote them out. i worked in washington dc and can tell you when you flood your congressman and senator flood their offices with phone calls and letters they listen. they want to be reelected. make your voice heard. i am i am telling you what you can do. at the end of the day pray. i believe that in this case and in every case prayer works. take it from a guy who who spent five months with isis studying isis, researching, writing. pray. i know this was a heavy message, but speaking of praying i am going to reference the bible a bible, a dangerous thing to do in the washington dc area but it has never stopped me before. the bible says my people perish for lack of knowledge
okay. we are equipped now. what are what are we going to do? i challenge you and everyone watching at home to be watchmen and watch women on the wall for such a time as this. again if not us who? these are the times. thank you very much. thank you thank you again. bless you. thank you. [applause] >> a question about the military. obama has given pink slips over 200 military colonels and generals decimated the military many of them including dempsey said we
are not sure we can defend the united states if we are and more than one more. where are the active joint chiefs of staff? they don't agree with what obama is doing. i no they want their jobs but why are these incredibly talented, accomplished professionals not speaking out? none of them speaking out. >> i can't get inside their heads and speak for them but is in the case of looks, they want to preserve their jobs? perhaps. also in some cases is it that maybe the ideologically don't see isis as the massive debt that it is. there could be a number of factors. i cannot get inside there head and read her mind can't can't do it. some of the statements have alarmed me. in terms of downplay, and our military brass as well in terms of downplaying the threat and that isis is not
the major threat that it is. i have not been reviewed any of the military current brass extensively, but it is something that has to be answered because we are not getting it done. >> given the way you explained it why is there not been more major attacks? are they waiting for some good moment? what is your theory? >> not for lack of effort. we have had some luck. at the end of the day covering this closely we have had great law enforcement and intelligence work without a doubt.
god bless agents and law enforcement officers in the field. we have we have had great law enforcement intelligence work, some luck but isis is a different beast and the pervasiveness now in the us and the poorest us i think is an inviting target. a new strategy of course they want to top september 11. in the meantime the strategy are low-tech, self-starters. one man or one moment. death by a thousand cuts. death by a thousand cuts. chip away. the chip away at the economy and psyche.
i i should have mentioned it in my talk. al qaeda released not publicly, but put together a 20 year plan. it ended in the year 2020 and had seven phases. the 5th phase called for the establishment of the caliphate. guess what happened in 2014? a caliphate was declared by isis. right on course. the next phase is what out had a call toll confrontation. 2016 to 2020 total confrontation. if if they have a network of supporters and sympathizers if they are gaining new
affiliates geographical ground and if we can -- if we refuse to confront the naval confront us. it seems to it seems to me that the plan is working well. >> i no that qaddafi had ties. >> definitely one, americans arrested in prison now who want to go overseas and join isis. they could absolutely be a problem. we have had a long run of inmates converting to islam and becoming radicalized. so absolutely making such a big splash on the world stage and doing it in such an audacious way absolutely
that will connect with not only people in prison the radicals outside. they are connecting with people and a major way. we have cases were muslim brotherhood connected individuals have served as prison imams. we have the fox guarding the hen house. i remain highly concerned. >> have there been any actual documented? >> i don't know of any concrete cases. definitely something to watch for. >> hey. thank you. you talk about how iran is dominating capitals in countries around the middle east from damascus to beirut
and we know that in that region the only territory so far conquered are targeted belongs to those iranian puppets. to what extent would you help erick stakelbeck to hang onto its puppets by going after iis or how would you reach a balance? anything that we do to diminish helps iran which once it demonstrates a deliverable nuclear weapon we will solidify control the region. >> i think it i think it is two sides of the same coin. we must deal with isis because isis is showing a willingness and desire to strike us here. i i think that they have to be dealt with.
i believe we have to deal with them. on the flipside, i believe we need to deal with iran the head of the terrorist snake. the greater long-term threat long-term all bets are off and he will use it. their ideology demands it. i deal with both. as a relatively informed american deal with it by any means necessary and to allow them to acquire a nuclear weapon. it might sound simplistic, but we we do not want to snuff out the islamic state. i believe you have to deal with both. perhaps you deal with the islamic state 1st and turn
to the united states. >> thank you for bringing that up. that was stunning. coming from this administration not so. say something pretty radical. >> the more people i talked to who are aware and interested. [inaudible conversations] >> a a question. >> we are talking about iran and hezbollah. and that i can assure you was not an oversight. >> i know.
>> recently removed from the us terror list. the obama administration says that they no longer pose a threat and are changing their spot in essence and iran and has black can be used against jihadists. that is basically official government policy right now. it is all they're. it was laid out in such a forceful eloquent, compelling manner that there is not much i can say that he did not say already. the case was laid out years ago. the same ones the same ones who took over in 1979 are there today. has below is an arm of the iranian regime. by the way something we did not talk about is their presence here in the western history.
they have tentacles throughout south america central america. has below operatives have been arrested in the united states. why? why would they want intercontinental ballistic missiles? because they mean is great harm at the end of the day and if they get the means to do it they we will. it does not have to be conventional firing off a missile. the possibility of an emp attack. >> ideological enemy has infiltrated our education system and dropped the young
minds. >> two things i want to get to in the book. a short amount of time. so many things you want to get in there. especially the universities. number two which i want to mention quickly the belief in islamic prophecies. it's fascinating. isis believes that these are the last days and t it's fascinating. isis believes that these are the last days and that they are the guardians of the caliphate and apocalypse and
believe there will be a showdown with the west and syria one day. they disagree on some things , but isis believes the last days are at hand they are the vanguards of islam and a climactic battle will occur in syria. very interesting. it is an apocalyptic prophetic ideology focused on armageddon just as the iranian ideology. different interpretations but the same endgame. the education system the universities have become a cauldron for rampant,
vicious anti-semitism. it exists. our greatest institutions of higher learning not some backward school division, division i excellent schools, specifically the uc california system have become open hotbeds for anti-semitism. we have professors for openly anti-somatic command to israel, anti-american. the main thing. the main thing for college campuses is the islamic radicalism, group i am thinking of an particular the muslim student association a radical group present on hundreds of college campuses across the united states and canada. the muslim student association. a big problem. some of our textbooks at the secondary and high school
level are whitewashing islamic conquests. a major problem. i stunned you all into silence of this time. >> nuclear weapons. the soviet union and now russia. the russian army more than 50 percent muslim. on pakistan. >> there is. we have shown in certain countries in the middle east and north africa and the muslim world that we won't
do much to stand in the way. pakistan is one of the top three most dangerous right now. the imminent possibility it continues that they could overthrow the regime and get a hold of those nuclear weapons. you already have the islamic bomb in pakistan. if this is pakistan all bets are off. it is a massive threat. a cauldron. of course we are keeping tabs on it at the governmental level. if the regime will fall the obama administration has seen various regimes fall. islam is come to power and gain strength and have done nothing to stop it.
i don't have confidence we will do anything in pakistan. i am concerned about another thing, saudi arabia, jordan, egypt. encircling saudi arabia. encircling jordan, israel. what are we going to do? we will never let jordan or saudi arabia fall. too many interests. with the with the way things have been going, expect the unexpected. nothing is off the table. inside the beltway they won't tell you that. the beltway style thinking
has gotten us in a pretty dastardly place right now. it must be mentioned we are looking for moderate muslim leaders. this is this is the one guy right now. he has had his back up. going out on a limb and standing on new year's day calling for reformation. that's bold. that's courageous. he is in a church and stands and says we're all egyptians no egyptian no egyptian president has ever done that.
he is a man who is crushed for now the muslim brotherhood in egypt largely fighting isis and the sinai peninsula strong relationship with israel. we should be ending the practice. your not going to get any better. thomas jefferson is not turning around the corner in cairo. you have a guy who opposes jihad and his family to america. yet we are isolating. if the administration would like to see more see back in power. a few weeks ago we had a mother -- muslim brotherhood contingent that the state department.
they would not be having this conversation if it were not for the muslim brotherhood. it is the granddaddy of them all. it is the original modern islamic terrorist movement. our friends. we have them at the state department. we have a muslim brotherhood delegation some holding up to four finger salute. at the state department. a terrorist group identified as such. they are terrorists. the same endgame. tactics are different. they burrow into a host
spinnaker any more questions >> number three at in the records about attacking computers are attacking the us state department i know that isis but can you speak to wear those come from? >> great questions but with isis the cyberjihad these are guys you mentioned earlier are very savvy with technology and the media that have their cyberhockey team that they are trying to hack into the personal information of u.s. military personnel and law-enforcement. that is scary they have published addresses of soldiers on the web. or their real?
not quite clear but the intent is there absolutely bad on b-2s sensitive economic issues but into personal lives of u.s. soldiers. at the end of the day white to the target u.s. soldiers? because they view them as the tip of the crusaders fear. the defenders of the cross. they believe in modern-- crusaders so many times they are targeting u.s. military. many times to target americans with the cyberrealm as well.